tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post1272956916071233136..comments2023-05-15T07:29:55.403-07:00Comments on Fiddler's Edge: The Monetized CoalitionUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-79666297952540698772012-11-15T17:38:13.402-08:002012-11-15T17:38:13.402-08:00Isn't it the player base that changed? At one ...Isn't it the player base that changed? At one point the endgame vision for most Eve players was to be a highly skilled elite pvp pilot, now it's to be part of a diplomatically successful, newbie-friendly huge power bloc.<br /><br />We get the game we want, as expressed by the way (most of) us play.Stabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08716211705647213383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-77124611736426173512012-11-15T11:14:35.162-08:002012-11-15T11:14:35.162-08:00Actually, the majority of players in null these da...Actually, the majority of players in null these days are former bears with a grounding in indy skills. Despite this, the shelves in the markets there are largely empty of goods. <br /><br />As you point out, the ease of exporting materials to highsec and importing finished goods makes producing locally uncompetitive. However, much of this is because the means of production in nullsec outposts are not as efficient as in empire and the alliances routinely price the use of said means of production far too high - and then wonder why their manufacturing lines and refineries sit idle. <br /><br />The answer on the part of nullsec alliances is, of course, to call for a nerf of the means of production in high and low security space. This is currently in CCP's plans. Mord Fiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01734756410122516725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-57553765039676216912012-11-15T07:27:28.179-08:002012-11-15T07:27:28.179-08:00While it is many major industrial players would no...While it is many major industrial players would not go to Null because of the current inherent risks involve it is also true that the contempt most Null players and by extension organisations have for those following the industrial path is also a major factor.<br /><br />Null Alliances on the whole don't want industrial types, they need to be defended they need investment and they need a friendly atmosphere in which to work. Why bother with that when you can invest a small amount of the outlay required in a logistics chain to HiSec and spend the rest on packing your fleets with F1 monkeys.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10666079071289755620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-15462415387432636122012-11-14T12:12:33.144-08:002012-11-14T12:12:33.144-08:00I think I understand why too . . .
It is clear t...I think I understand why too . . . <br /><br />It is clear the a real industrial core cannot evolve in a fluid space. Things have to quiet down and be stable for a long time before these sorts of things will actually arise in this game, because the price of war for an industrial player can be very high if he loses the BPOs and ships he needs to ply his trade. Until they know that where they are going will not be overrun in short order, no major industrial player will make the move to Nullsec. We'll see in a few months if this actually makes a difference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-25368802970181215392012-11-14T04:17:49.221-08:002012-11-14T04:17:49.221-08:00I merely point out the change in direction. Upon ...I merely point out the change in direction. Upon a time, the massive coalition was anathema to the quality of play. Now it is a central part of the business plan. Mord Fiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01734756410122516725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-14545856469272307742012-11-14T04:15:23.542-08:002012-11-14T04:15:23.542-08:00Ever try to milk a whale? Ever try to milk a whale? Mord Fiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01734756410122516725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-69158998197916776372012-11-14T04:08:59.792-08:002012-11-14T04:08:59.792-08:00I am not sure if you are saying "no matter wh...I am not sure if you are saying "no matter what CCP do, they will fail" or "they are going about their ideas incorrectly"!<br /><br />CCP are a business that have a product "Eve-Online" and they want to make a profit. One way they can do this is by being unscrupulous, ripping off their clients until they have more money than sense or are caught. Another way is to please their audience by providing the product that is wanted. The second option is incredibly difficult to get right.<br /><br />You receive comments from customers on the current product, translate into company speak and hey presto a patch arrives, it rarely does what the customer expects. Unfortunately we usually pick up on the catastrophic ones because of the media frenzy and when they do get it right the applause is barely audible.<br /><br />I'm still not completely sure of the point that your are making. Do you think they are going in completely the wrong direction or just slightly off course?Soliloquyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09784439617358658474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-55647349945596149272012-11-13T20:24:02.887-08:002012-11-13T20:24:02.887-08:00I think the term you were looking for is whales, n...I think the term you were looking for is whales, not elephants.NoizyGamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.com