tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post7724061927729766979..comments2023-05-15T07:29:55.403-07:00Comments on Fiddler's Edge: The Gathering StormUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-32517910468290949542011-07-29T09:48:45.167-07:002011-07-29T09:48:45.167-07:00@Jeff - No worries. Sometimes I read the tea leave...@Jeff - No worries. Sometimes I read the tea leaves wrong. (Don't tell anyone, though - I'm trying to maintain the illusion of neigh-infallible insight.)Mord Fiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01734756410122516725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-79279592561017024852011-07-28T20:37:29.995-07:002011-07-28T20:37:29.995-07:00Sorry I blame the late night and the fact my Inter...Sorry I blame the late night and the fact my Internet got cut. Rereading it I sounded like an arse. Next time I promise to be nicer :)Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01501346271031844079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-56069136594114955662011-07-26T10:50:32.935-07:002011-07-26T10:50:32.935-07:00@Xel - Bear in mind that, for many of the DRF, Eve...@Xel - Bear in mind that, for many of the DRF, Eve is not recreational.Mord Fiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01734756410122516725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-129864567007420962011-07-26T10:49:22.895-07:002011-07-26T10:49:22.895-07:00Good reference Stevie.Good reference Stevie.Mord Fiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01734756410122516725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-45092063183269818962011-07-26T10:24:27.696-07:002011-07-26T10:24:27.696-07:00I need to ammend my tl;dr of the supercap esacpe.
...I need to ammend my tl;dr of the supercap esacpe.<br /><br />Goons were gatecamping, and new NC sent in one ship, which caused all 200 Goons to crash. PL & Co. ran in and began to suicide jammer, finally off-lining it. With the jammer offlined, the new NC jumped in their non-trapped supercap fleet, covering the slow-boat retreat of the trapped supers through the bubbles.<br /><br />Full Br: http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?10725-The-Hundred-Days-War-%28-New-Northern-Thread-%29&p=273004&viewfull=1#post273004Stephen McMurtryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02927882216046995252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-52183986538288457332011-07-26T10:08:35.663-07:002011-07-26T10:08:35.663-07:00PS: I guess my point is, my gut tells me it's ...PS: I guess my point is, my gut tells me it's a lot more this than any desire for full fledged invasion and takeover of nullsec for the longhaul. Who would even want the burden? I don't even think it's a plausible goal, destined for failure from over-extension. Surely, the Russians realize this.Xel Sethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12138166462534504865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-14444053255999891212011-07-26T10:04:12.236-07:002011-07-26T10:04:12.236-07:00How likely is it that they are trying to make the ...How likely is it that they are trying to make the most use out of their supers now, to get as much bang for their buck as they can before the nerf? I've been thinking it makes a lot of sense. Whatever they can take now, they just have to hold as best they can, afterward, though some of it will inevitably crumble. It's the method of "throw it at the wall and see what sticks".Xel Sethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12138166462534504865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-83132004070728454712011-07-26T09:48:44.330-07:002011-07-26T09:48:44.330-07:00@Kirith: It was my impression that the new NC sui...@Kirith: It was my impression that the new NC suicided themselves at the jammer to draw the Goons away from the rape cage. Keeping systems cyno-jammed is #1 priority for Goons, so in this case, they had to divert their fleet to the jammer, rather than maintain the rapecage. This allowed PL to mass log-in supers and escape the bubbles. Additionally, there was a mysterious happening, in which a 200-Goon fleet, preparing to reinforce both the rapecage and the jammer, saw a lone new NC Jaguar (forget which alliance) at a gate and all disconnected at once. Many are crying foul play, but we don't know for sure.Stephen McMurtryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02927882216046995252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-10779256603368175192011-07-26T04:53:54.082-07:002011-07-26T04:53:54.082-07:00@Kirith - Thanks for the clarification@Kirith - Thanks for the clarificationMord Fiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01734756410122516725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-36022712645002696772011-07-26T04:52:41.817-07:002011-07-26T04:52:41.817-07:00Fiddler's Note: Based on reader reports and a ...Fiddler's Note: Based on reader reports and a re-check of the kill boards, it's evident that CVA is not fighting on the side of NC[DOT] and the DRF. The posting has been updated accordingly. <br /><br />My apologies to CVA and the readership at large for getting that one wrong.Mord Fiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01734756410122516725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-35251685913772314452011-07-26T04:52:31.120-07:002011-07-26T04:52:31.120-07:00Correction: Cynojammers do not prevent ships from ...Correction: Cynojammers do not prevent ships from jumping out. They merely stop cyno fields from being opened (and covert cynos get around this prohibition). <br /><br />More likely the subcap fleet cleared away from bubbles from login spots of the super caps to let them jump out once they logged in.Kirith Kodachihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12322297953184168725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-15085461892470287802011-07-26T02:16:57.899-07:002011-07-26T02:16:57.899-07:00@Jeff-I'll have another look at the kill board...@Jeff-I'll have another look at the kill boards. I was unable to find a kill mail for the CVA TCU, which would indicate the device was off-lined rather than destroyed. CVA shows up on kill mails for both sides of the initial battles but seemed predominantly on the WN/NC{DOT} side of the fence. Apologies to CVA and their allies if I got that bit wrong.<br /><br />@Arg - For practical purposes, there's little difference between the two. If it walks like a conqueror and quacks like a conqueror, it is, I'm afraid, a conqueror. <br /><br />@Stevie - Sitting under jammers & holding out for a supercarrier nerf is no longer a viable option. If the Goons and the Southern Russians fall, the DRF & Co won't need Supers to mop up what remains.Mord Fiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01734756410122516725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-10828556648346888502011-07-25T21:20:19.777-07:002011-07-25T21:20:19.777-07:00Don't be so crude, Jeff. There are politer wa...Don't be so crude, Jeff. There are politer ways to say that.<br /><br />I'm wondering if the DRF dosn't so much want to conquer nullsec as it wants to ensure that there are no other power blocks that can threaten it. It wouldn't make business sense to do away with all free nullsec, as you will spend all your time fighting brushfires, instead of generating income in peace.Arggamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10710556952417899805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-23218661775629171352011-07-25T19:58:34.520-07:002011-07-25T19:58:34.520-07:00In not such angry words, I need to back up Jeff. ...In not such angry words, I need to back up Jeff. Everyone in Provi (along with -A- and Co.) has been fighting against WN. and NC.Stephen McMurtryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02927882216046995252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-46111258687178538412011-07-25T18:53:19.911-07:002011-07-25T18:53:19.911-07:00If you think cva are siding with drf you are reall...If you think cva are siding with drf you are really dumb. Wn with nc. Are attacking all of prov and all current space holders except ISS are actively killing WN ships and sbu's with aaa's support. Cva didn't drop sov, they lost the sov. Not sure where you get your info from but it stinks of ignorant arse. If you have no clue, stop making it up.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01501346271031844079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604973112865316634.post-76059428345758371072011-07-25T17:42:39.528-07:002011-07-25T17:42:39.528-07:00At this point, I don't think the new NC has pl...At this point, I don't think the new NC has plans to conquer the galaxy. I believe that they have learned from the mistakes of the old NC. Their leaders know that growing fat off of Tech and anoms will slowly kill their alliance, so they are keeping their pilots on their toes by launching invasions left and right. The moment that a new NC alliance says, "Ya know, I think I'll skip this invasion," then the new NC is dead, as atrophy will have set in.<br /><br />It doesn't help the -A- and Deklein blocs, however, that the old NC is trying to take space in Delve in Querious. If MM/RZR/Br1ck had the will to fight the new NC and the humility to accept the Goon or AAA yoke, then a counterattack could be launched.<br /><br />But then again, maybe not. I think we will see many alliances taking the Goonswarm approach: holding strong under jammers and looking desperately for the supercarrier nerf.Stephen McMurtryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02927882216046995252noreply@blogger.com